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Bait Population Jun 25, 2025 4:58 pm #41136

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Only been out 4 times this year due to weather on the weekends but it sure seems like the bait population offshore is not what its been over the last couple of years.  Fish seem smaller too which I have heard reports of all the way up to Ludington.  Got 9 coho last Sunday and only a couple had some old alwives in them with the rest either gobies or nothing.  I recall a report posted earlier in the year from Michigan about "concerning" levels of bait detected, anybody experiencing anything different?

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Bait Population Jun 25, 2025 6:41 pm #41137

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I am concerned as well, been seeing majority magnum size bait in my fish which is also concerning. What I will say on a positive note though is the fish do seem smaller but none look unhealthy. Also, I heard some people saying they've been seeing a ton if bait in close with the water temps being what they are maybe were all just running over a lot of fish on the bait.... who knows unless someone tries...
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Bait Population Jun 25, 2025 8:57 pm #41138

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I was out perch fishing out of portage today and had marks on my screen like crazy near bottom, I’m newer to fishing the lake out of my own boat and had assumed they were perch. Ended up catching about 30 alewives in about 35 feet of water without perch and then switched to steelhead. Couldn’t go a couple minutes without marking them.

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Bait Population Jun 26, 2025 4:03 am #41139

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So not trying to get to involved in this post but,,,, take a look at the graph. The number that is concerning is the number of natural kings that are in the system.
Take a look at were the numbers were at right before we had to take cuts. Then look at the most recent years and ask yourself are we pushing to that point again?

If you were one of the lake managers,,,,,,,, how do you account for all the kings now. They have to eat. Fishermen were asked just a few years ago. What do you want in your fishery? Bigger fish or more fish. The more fish group was heard the loudest. And thats what we got. When fish can not acheive there normal size and feed the way mother nature intended them to then you have fish that are on the border. This time of year Coho should be in the 6-8lb size,(July4th) with some pushing 10lbs. Kings for Indiana should be in the 17-21lb, class, with some pushing 25lbs. Are we there??? Trying to manage this lake is not easy, and when we fishermen think we know more then the real lake managers then you get what you asked for.
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Bait Population Jun 26, 2025 5:47 am #41140

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So I guess a few of you are now asking yourself how do we get all the naturals in the system???? They have always been there. Why are there so many???

When mother nature blesses us with a good alewife spawn the salmon fingerlings make out really well. We see here how bait coverage helps cover the spring stocking that we put in.here. The stocking gets a chance to survive and grow.There are rivers and streams that can produce naturals thru spawning. When the alewife have a really good spawning year all the fish have a good chance at long term survival. All means just that ALL ARE DOING WELL. Managers can control the stocking but cannot control the amount of naturals that also get produced. Thats the problem we face. It isn't the amount of stocking rather the amount of natural fish that cannot be controlled.
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Bait Population Jun 26, 2025 5:56 am #41141

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The last of the items that managers cannot control,,,,,,,,,, when alewife spawn. So if we have years before another good lake wide spawning event it is possible to out eat what gets produced. We are seeing that the times between good spawning events is spreading out now over time instead of happening more often.
Stress on bait thru quaggas,,,,, it sure would be a different lake with out the real problem we face.
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Bait Population Jun 26, 2025 7:14 am #41142

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With all the extra fish in the lake it's easy to see why the bait is down along with the size of our fish. Looking like it's possible to eat the lake "DRY" of bait. We don't really want the smaller "starved" fish to be used for replenishing our stock. That's just not what we want. To me it looks like cuts in stocking is the answer. But is it?

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