Welcome, Guest
Username: Password: Remember me

TOPIC:

How safe to eat lakers Feb 26, 2017 2:18 pm #11539

  • little bill
  • little bill's Avatar Topic Author
  • Offline
  • Premium Member
  • Premium Member
  • Posts: 86
  • Thank you received: 61
Being new to this site and lake trout fishing are they safe to eat and how to cook?

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

How safe to eat lakers Feb 26, 2017 3:01 pm #11540

  • Angry Pirate
  • Angry Pirate's Avatar
  • Offline
  • Moderator
  • Moderator
  • Posts: 812
  • Thank you received: 488
Lake trout over 30 inches you should not eat. Under 30 inches one meal per month. I personally do not eat them but a friend of mine does. He tells me that after he cleans them he marinade them for a day. Then he smokes them then after that grills them. He says this process pulls most of the fat out of the fish. How much truth is to that I don't know.
It's better to ask forgiveness than for permission.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

How safe to eat lakers Feb 26, 2017 3:52 pm #11542

  • Lickety-Split
  • Lickety-Split's Avatar
  • Away
  • Platinum Member
  • Platinum Member
  • Posts: 2455
  • Thank you received: 1740
AP is correct, nothing over 30 inches. Recently I read where I beliive it was MSU ran more testing on smaller size lakers. They discovered that even at 20 inches in length they already would be on the do not consume list. We may see a change were all states have the same information, and move to a 20 inch laker as the new model. :pinch:
Lickety-Split

Life is not measured by the breaths you take
but by the moments that take your breath away

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

How safe to eat lakers Feb 26, 2017 4:00 pm #11543

  • SafeCracker
  • SafeCracker's Avatar
  • Offline
  • Elite Member
  • Elite Member
  • Posts: 353
  • Thank you received: 94

Lake trout over 30 inches you should not eat. Under 30 inches one meal per month. I personally do not eat them but a friend of mine does. He tells me that after he cleans them he marinade them for a day. Then he smokes them then after that grills them. He says this process pulls most of the fat out of the fish. How much truth is to that I don't know.


He is also from South Africa and his opinion on food is invalid. He eats scorpions. :sick:
Greg ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ :woohoo:

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

How safe to eat lakers Feb 26, 2017 4:04 pm #11544

  • Angry Pirate
  • Angry Pirate's Avatar
  • Offline
  • Moderator
  • Moderator
  • Posts: 812
  • Thank you received: 488
Lol so true. The day we caught our first laker the look on his face when I through it back was priceless. After he explained he used to eat carp in the old country I gave in and started keeping the lakers for him. I won't lie after that the rigger ball went to the bottom. Lol
It's better to ask forgiveness than for permission.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

How safe to eat lakers Feb 26, 2017 4:06 pm #11545

  • Lickety-Split
  • Lickety-Split's Avatar
  • Away
  • Platinum Member
  • Platinum Member
  • Posts: 2455
  • Thank you received: 1740
Lake Michigan Trout Not Safe To Eat

Published: 2011-07-27


Lake trout, one of the more popular fish in Lake Michigan, are a potential health risk and should not be eaten, according to a new state advisory.


The advisory this week heightens restrictions on lake trout in the lake and worries charter captains, even though state officials say Great Lakes fish are generally getting healthier.


"You betcha" it would hurt business, said Carol Munoz, who has run the Fishtown Charter Service in Leland with her husband, Jim, for 35 years.


"This morning, I think Jim caught about 12 lake trout," she said. "It would be a serious problem if we had to avoid them."
For 2011-12, the Department of Community Health is recommending lake trout not be eaten once they hit the legal limit for Lake Michigan — 20 inches and larger. Last year, trout 22 inches and larger were considered potentially hazardous.


Advisories are enacted due to potential fish contamination. For trout in Lake Michigan, concerns are about PCBs, Chlordane — a chemical compound in long-banned pesticides — and dioxins. But state officials insist the new advisory is not an indication of a worsening problem.


"We have additional fish testing now that suggests even the shorter trout are problematic with regard to effects from contamination," said Dave Wade, director of the agency's division of environmental health.


Michigan's western shoreline cities are home to many businesses that make their living off the waters.


Charter operator Chad Bard and others know bad word of mouth on the health of Lake Michigan fish can hurt business.
Bard said he considers lake trout a "go-to" fish and always makes sure to have at least one of his 15 fishing rods on his boat rigged for trout.


"They're the ones you can always get," said Bard, captain of IT-IL-DO Charters of Grand Haven. "They're usually hanging around somewhere near the bottom and they're easier to catch."


Officials with Michigan's Department of Natural Resources stressed the advisories are nonbinding and the risks of real harm from occasionally eating lake trout are slim.


"Like many things in life, there may be risks involved. This advisory serves as a guideline, not a mandate," said Jim Dexter, acting chief of the agency's fisheries division.


Larger-scale commercial fishing operations could be hurt as well as businesses that cater to sports fishermen. A 2003 study by the Michigan Sea Grant Extension found 41.63 percent of lake trout from the Great Lakes came from Lake Michigan.


What may trouble some operations is the fact that a 26-inch lake trout caught off the shore of Leland might be considered hazardous to eat, but the same fish caught a few days later in the waters off Wisconsin would be considered problem-free.
While Michigan recommends not eating lake trout if the fish are as small as 20 inches, Wisconsin recommends not eating them only after they reach 29 inches.



It's a discrepancy not lost on health department officials.


"We're beginning to look at revising some of our advisory procedures for the coming years," Wade said. "We're trying, with this revision, to be a little more consistent regionally."


Many of the charter operations contacted Friday by The Detroit News said they were unaware of the advisory changes.
"I heard rumblings, but I didn't think it was actually going to fly," said Don Ward of Ward Brothers' Boats in Charlevoix.


Wade said the department used to do much more in the way of communicating its advisories to the public. A decade ago, the state would annually print 1.6 million brochures to be distributed at fishing stores, health departments and Woman, Infants and Children offices. But funding cuts have made that impossible.



SOURCE: Detroit News, article by Jim Lynch
Lickety-Split

Life is not measured by the breaths you take
but by the moments that take your breath away

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

How safe to eat lakers Feb 26, 2017 4:17 pm #11546

  • Steelie Don
  • Steelie Don's Avatar
  • Offline
  • Travel Ambasador
  • Travel Ambasador
  • Posts: 1050
  • Thank you received: 509
I think Brother Nature wrote a piece on this subject a few years or so ago. Maybe he can weigh in again on how to render a laker to a safer to eat level. The few I have used I only kept shoulder meat that was trimmed liberally from the skin and cut into 1/2 inch thick strips for frying.
My Searunner 190, "Four "D's" and a "C". Retirement money well spent.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

How safe to eat lakers Feb 26, 2017 4:26 pm #11547

  • SafeCracker
  • SafeCracker's Avatar
  • Offline
  • Elite Member
  • Elite Member
  • Posts: 353
  • Thank you received: 94

I think Brother Nature wrote a piece on this subject a few years or so ago. Maybe he can weigh in again on how to render a laker to a safer to eat level. The few I have used I only kept shoulder meat that was trimmed liberally from the skin and cut into 1/2 inch thick strips for frying.


Most of the contaminants are held in the fatty portions of the meat. By trimming the belly fat and other dark meat, not skinning so close and by using cooking methods that render the fat and oils from the meat(i.e. Smoking and grilling), the amount of contaminants will be lower.

Still not worth it to me.
Greg ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ :woohoo:

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

How safe to eat lakers Feb 26, 2017 5:02 pm #11549

  • Steelie Don
  • Steelie Don's Avatar
  • Offline
  • Travel Ambasador
  • Travel Ambasador
  • Posts: 1050
  • Thank you received: 509
What is sad that the INDNR also lists coho and king salmon as only fit to eat once a month at a portion size of 8 ounces. The same for lakers under 27 inches. There doesn't seem to be a lot of concern over the silver fish. I still come to the lake and fish and never give it a second thought when I box up a salmon for the trip home. Those lists are guidelines and as Ed's article showed they are somewhat flawed.
My Searunner 190, "Four "D's" and a "C". Retirement money well spent.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

Last edit: by Steelie Don.

How safe to eat lakers Feb 26, 2017 5:44 pm #11555

  • frisbee3557
  • frisbee3557's Avatar
  • Offline
  • Junior Member
  • Junior Member
  • Posts: 16
  • Thank you received: 5
Since it hadn't been mentioned, I will say that lakers, especially smoked, are absolutely delicious. I'll keep the small (< 24") ones but we do say they are adult-only table fare. I always released every laker I caught until a buddy convinced me to try one. He was right - they are great to eat.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.